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Tue, 22 Apr 1997 10:36:50 -0700 (PDT)
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Re: (idm) Re: oval
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wrecktangle writes:
quoted 5 lines So, would you say that the sound generated by a CD player skipping through> So, would you say that the sound generated by a CD player skipping through > a scratched CD was obtained through an effort equal to that of someone who > skips through and rearranges the sounds on a record by hand? If this is > your opinion I would have to disagree, because DJs will at least do SOME > of the work in making their music...
it's an interesting question. brian eno is a famous proponent of systems-based music. for example, the album "thursday afternoon" is just a dozen or so tape loops running for an hour. it's also one of the most beautiful ambient albums ever made. does the ease of its construction mean that it is less valid as a work of art? so, while i may not care for oval that much (i know people on the net who were making albums out of skipping CDs five years ago), i wouldn't say what they do is any less *valid* because of it. i had an interesting discussion with my ex-roommate jeff taylor a while back. he had put together what was in essence just a bunch of loops on the sequencer. it sounded quite like an eno ambient record, and i thought it was very cool just as it was. i told him "throw in a DAT and record 74 minutes of this, then put it out as an album." he just couldn't bring himself to see what he had created as a valid piece in and of itself. we argued back and forth about it for a while. he did eventually cave in to my whining and record it on a DAT for a few hours but he only used about 1 minute of it as an intro to another, more traditionally-composed, track he did. it was interesting to see his allergy to accepting this piece as something he had at least partly given birth to. hmmm, now that i have a cd burner i should get that DAT from him... -- Jon Drukman jsd@gamespot.com SpotMedia Communications How the drunk and the maimed both are dragged forward out of the arena like a boneless Christ, one man under each arm, feet dragging, eyes on the aether. (David Foster Wallace/Infinite Jest)